Can you wear a cravat with a waist coat at a ball?
I've decided to go for a waistcoat.
At first I didn't want one because I thought they'd be quite grandad-ish but I tried one on and it looked quite good.
I've also decided against a Cummerwhatsit because according to the guys in Moss Bros, everyone will be wearing them, and also because I dont think they suit people with my build.
So anyway, I have a predicament because the waistcoat I have chosen (picture) doesn't come with a bow tie.
It's more of a wedding waistcoat, but the dress waistcoats available make me look like a blackjack dealer.
It does however come with a cravat.
According to my friend, the guy in the FallOut Boy video for "Dance Dance" wears one so its ok.
Hmmmm.
And what do you think of the waistcoat colour? Or should I go for one of these?
(See waistcoats. I was thinking, red, gold or that one?)
8 Comments:
At 4:38 pm, In Full Bloom said…
First of all- what is this bizarre ball you are going to? Is it a hip-hip-hooray-school-is-over/prom type thing?
Personally, I like the goldish-creamish one with the cream cravat on the first page. I think it will complement your skin tone very well. But the one you chose is very nice too. The red one kind of reminded me of the ones the waiters used to wear at this curry house I used to got to in Manchester.
And bow ties + waistcoats = the waiter look = not good. And ties with waistcoats just look awkward. Cravats on the other hand are rather nice. The more I look at them, the less poncey they appear. They are, in fact, kind of foreign-football-manager-at-a-christmas-party-esque. Which is a good thing. Unless you are Carlo Ancelotti. And you are drunk and singing "Winter Wonderland" in Italian. And footage of you doing so is later broadcast worldwide on Milan Magazine.
Sorry...I'm rambling again.
xx
At 12:33 am, Anyhoo said…
Drat, Firefox fled and took my comment with it. So rehashed as late.
Why the worry about the lack of matching bowtie for the lilac waistcoat? Bowties are like early Fords.
And don't Moss Bros do a proper cravat (stupid question with MB)?
Cumberbund/cummerbund: useful for disguising ill-fitting waists. Attractive if one does gunslinger hips (and so flattens the stomach). Accentuates it if one doesn't.
Waistcoat colour: er, they do mostly seem to look like wallpaper in a pretentious hotel, don't they?
At 7:37 am, Rob7534 said…
I don't much like the cravat paired with a waist coat. A white bow tie would look ideal. I think. Maybe.
As I was looking through the assortment of waist coats available, I absolutly fell in love with THIS ONE.
I love that design, and dark blue color!
At 1:14 pm, Azuric said…
IFB - Its my Leavers Ball, or as the Americans would say, its like totally my like high-school prom!
Yeah I liked the gold one also. Grr im so indecisive. LMAO - Red one, yeah I can see what you mean.
Any - I want it to match. It will look weird otherwise. The only Cravats they do seem to be those ones. Whats a proper one? Im so new to all this, Im totally lost. However I really want to go to an English Wedding now...or better still, a day at the races!
What are gunslinger hips? A Cumberbund suits you but I don't know about me - im 5'7" and have a short torso so I doubt it will do anything positive for me.
LOL - wallpaper, unfortunately its true.
Rob - I don't know, that one is nice, but I don't think it would suit me.
Overall, Im still lost. Cravat yes. Waistcoat yes. Colour - gold or that pink one.
At 4:15 pm, Rob7534 said…
Go with my choice! Trust in my 30 years of being one of The Gays™!
At 11:57 pm, Anyhoo said…
Gunslinger hips: stand with your legs apart, feet beneath shoulders. Imagine you've got a holster round your waist, with a gun each side, about over your hips. Imagine the barrel of the gun is pointing slightly back. Now try rotating your hips so the barrel points straight down* or slightly forward.
And oh look, somehow, magically, your stomach looks flatter (and you're not yet using your stomach muscles to do it), your seat looks smaller, your body leaner, and er, this stance has also been described as "pulling hips" (can't think why).
*If you're not sure how to do this, hold your hands open, with forefinger and thumb stretched apart (so in measuring/predicting position). With your elbows out to the sides, place your thumbs on the front of your hipbones. Place your first finger (or first two) against the front of your thighs, directly beneath the thumbs. Keeping your thumbs against the bone, move your hips until your thighs press against your fingers, and you'll be doing something gunslingery.
From this position, rotate your left arm until your hand points horizontally perpendicular to your body at about shoulder height.
Now sing after me...
Would I be that cruel? I have the chance to tell a guy what to do, to move his body at my command, and all I can think of is some nursery rhyme? Let's not psychoanalyse that.
At 5:08 pm, Azuric said…
Punches Any in the arm and makes mental note to read his comments to the end, before impersonating a hula dancer, in future.
At 6:33 pm, Anyhoo said…
Hula? I hadn't thought of that. Given I was thinking more little teapot, maybe I should.
And it's only one cocked wrist away from "Walk like an Egyptian" which somewhat depressingly probably came out before you were born.
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